quora:各國對中國和中國人的看法【上】
2019-09-26 云飛揚h 46686
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what do you think about china and chinese

quora:各國對中國和中國人的看法


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Tong Zou, lived in Seoul9(住在首爾)(美國人)
I guess I come from the unique perspective of having been to all the East Asian countries (China, Japan, Korea) and my feelings about China has changed because of this. Roughly 30% of my friends are Chinese and 40% Korean.

我覺得我可以從一個獨特的視角評論,我去過所有的東亞國家(中國,日本,韓國),我對中國的感覺也因此改變了。我大約30%的朋友是中國人,40%是韓國人。

Before I lived in Korea, I was in China for a few months, visiting such places as Beijing, Shanghai, Nanjing, Suzhou, Hangzhou.My impressions are that North China has really bad air.. and although Beijing has lots of history, it just wasn’t as interesting to me as Central and South China were. In contrast, Shanghai was probably the most modern city in China, and Suzhou and Hangzhou had some of the most beautiful natural scenery I’ve experienced.I had lots of (mainland) Chinese friends in university, and also met Chinese people in China of course.

在我住在韓國之前,我在中國呆了幾個月,參觀了北京、上海、南京、蘇州、杭州等地。我的印象是華北的空氣很差。雖然北京有很多歷史,但對我來說,它不像中國中部和南部那么有趣。相比之下,上海可能是中國最現代化的城市,蘇州和杭州有一些我所經歷過的最美麗的自然風景。我在大學里有很多的中國(大陸)朋友,當然也認識了在中國的中國人。



-Chinese people are very prideful about their country, and more uniquely is how prideful they are about the specific region where they are from. A lot of times I would hear not’ Chinese is the best’ but rather ‘Sichuan is the best’ or ‘Beijing is the best’ or ‘Shanghai -- is the best’. They like to boast a lot, and its not hard to see that they are biased in favor of China and their region on a lot of issues. It’s not so different from USA where Americans boast about their country too, but it is different from Japan/Korea where I don’t really hear them boasting about their country that often. Chinese people are not really aware of the culture differences between their country and Japan/Korea either, but that’s a forgivable point I suppose considering most Chinese have not been outside their country before.

——中國人對自己的國家感到非常自豪,更特別的是,他們對自己來自的特定地區感到多么自豪。很多時候,我聽到的不是“中國最好”,而是“四川最好”、“北京最好”或“上海最好”。他們喜歡吹噓,不難看出他們在很多問題上都偏袒中國和他們的地區。這和美國沒什么不同,美國人也會吹噓自己的國家,但是和日本、韓國不同,我很少聽到他們吹噓自己的國家。中國人也沒有真正意識到他們的國家和日本、韓國之間的文化差異,但考慮到大多數中國人以前從未出過國,我想這是可以原諒的。

- Chinese people seem to put a lot of faith into their government. I’ve seen them use extreme cases to justify certain questionable government decisions. For example, banning foreign websites: Foreigners think its extremely limiting to freedom but Chinese people think its a good thing because it protects their domestic industry, censoring sex/violence in entertainment: Foreigners think its extreme, Chinese people think that having sex/violence in entertainment will lead to people becoming depraved criminals. censoring social media: Foreigners think it limits freedom, Chinese people think having a free social media is too crazy and chaotic and unstable. The government makes them wear ugly track outfits for school. Foreigners think Korean/Japanese school uniforms look better. Chinese people think its distracts them from studying and looks too sexy. Chinese people seem to place a premium on stability and harmony over freedom and flexibility, I think.

中國人似乎對他們的政府很有信心。我看到他們用極端的例子來證明某些有問題的政府決策是正確的。例如,禁止外國網站:外國人認為這是對自由的極度限制,但中國人認為這是一件好事,因為它保護了他們的國內產業,審查娛樂中的性/暴力:外國人認為這是極端的,中國人認為娛樂中的性/暴力會導致人們成為墮落的罪犯。審查社交媒體:外國人認為這限制了自由,中國人認為擁有一個自由的社交媒體太瘋狂、太混亂、太不穩定。政府讓他們穿難看的運動校服上學。外國人認為韓國/日本的校服更好看。中國人認為它分散了他們學習的注意力,看起來太性感了。我認為中國人似乎更看重穩定與和諧,而不是自由與靈活。

-Japan is Tang Chinese culture, Korea is Chinese culture, Taiwan is ROC culture, China is its own culture. I find China the most westernized in culture out of all of them. For example, China is the least traditionally Confucist out of those countries, they have mostly done away with traditional ceremonies, religion, outfits (Chinese rarely wear Qipao compared to Japan’s Kimono or Korea’s Hanbok), and their fashion style is more similar to Westerners (i.e casual style) than to Koreans or Japanese. Perhaps this isn’t surprising since China underwent massive revolutions compared to those other countries.

日本是唐人文化,韓國是中國人文化,臺灣是中華民國文化,中國是自己的文化。我發現在所有這些國家中,中國的文化最為西化。例如,中國是這些國家中傳統儒家思想最少的國家,他們大多摒棄了傳統的儀式、宗教和服裝(與日本的和服或韓國的韓服相比,中國人很少穿旗袍),他們的時尚風格更接近西方人(我認為中國的傳統服飾是儒家思想的代表)。與韓國人或日本人相比。也許這并不奇怪,因為與其他國家相比,中國經歷了大規模的革命。

-Most Chinese are clean, nice and polite, but perhaps not to the same extent as Taiwan, Korea or Japan. My ranking of cleanliness / politeness in general is Japanese (TOO polite to a fault) > Taiwan> Korea> China.

大多數中國人干凈、友好、有禮貌,但可能沒有臺灣、韓國或日本人那么有禮貌。我對干凈/禮貌的排名一般是日本的(禮貌到不能有錯)>臺灣>韓國>中國。

-Censorship. This is more of a problem for foreigners than native residents, but just be aware that unlike Japan/Korea/Taiwan, you need to use a VPN to use most sites in China, and they censor violent/sexual content. Too much so, IMO.

審查。這對外國人比本地居民更是個問題,但要知道,與日本/韓國/臺灣不同,(外國人在中國)你需要使用VPN才能使用大多數(國外)網站,而且他們會審查暴力/色情內容。我覺得太多了



-Technology. Again, ALL of these countries have great technology. Japan is famous for its tech companies, robots and micro electronics (Sony, Canon, Fujitsu, Toshiba, Panasonic, Nintendo, etc too many to list). Taiwan is the #1 maker of computer hardware with such names as Asus, Acer, HTC, Gigabyte, MSI etc. Korea is home to electronic giants Samsung and LG. China doesn’t have the brand cache of those other companies but they are improving! Huawei, Lenovo, Xiaomi, ZTE are some of the companies that are rapidly catching up to Japan and Korea!

技術。同樣,所有這些國家都擁有偉大的技術。日本以科技公司、機器人和微電子產品聞名(索尼、佳能、富士通、東芝、松下、任天堂等多得無法列舉)。臺灣(譯者注:地區)是全球最大的電腦硬件制造商,擁有華碩、宏碁、宏達、技嘉、MSI等品牌。韓國是電子巨頭三星和LG的故鄉。中國沒有其他公司那樣的品牌儲備,但它們正在改進!華為、聯想、小米、中興等公司正在迅速追趕日本和韓國!

-Religion wise, because of China’s communist past, religion is pretty much banned, most Chinese are atheist. Taiwan and Japan are mostly Buddhist. Korea is uniquely a Christian country, perhaps relating to how socially conservative they are.

宗教智慧,由于中國的gc主義歷史,宗教幾乎被禁止,大多數中國人是無神論者。臺灣和日本大多信奉佛教。韓國是一個獨特的基督教國家,這或許與他們的社會保守程度有關。

In general I think it really depends what you want but China has its pros and cons. I did a comparison between China and other East Asian countries because I feel that this is a unique perspective I can contribute to, if others are interested. I would say work opportunity, diversity and natural beauty China is #1. Japan for the super polite / clean culture with a unique flavor. Korea is a mix of Japan and China but is also the most socially conservative and traditionally Confucist out of all them. Taiwan is much smaller than any of those countries but is a mix of Japanese and Chinese culture. I almost want to say they are Chinese people but with the manners of Japanese people.
Let me know in the comments if I am missing any comparison.

總的來說,我認為這取決于你想要什么,但是中國也有它的優點和缺點。我把中國和其他東亞國家做了一個比較,因為我覺得這是一個獨特的視角,如果其他人感興趣的話,我可以幫忙。我想說,工作機會、多樣性和自然美景是中國第一。日本因其超級禮貌/干凈的文化而具有獨特的風味。韓國是日本和中國的混合體,但同時也是社會上最保守、傳統上最儒家的國家。臺灣(譯者注:地區)比上述任何一個國家都小得多,但卻是日本和中國文化的混合體。我幾乎想說,他們是中國人,但有日本人的禮貌。
如果我忽略了其他比較,請在評論中告訴我。

Dan Holliday, Talent Acquisition / Recruiting (2011-present)
1)There’s the people, the nation-state and the government. Westerners look at China and mostly think that the Han are what is China. They’re statistically mostly right, but Uyghurs might have a problem with that. There is the nation-state, which encompasses a lot of diversity in China. There’s the government. I don’t think too highly of the government but not for the reasons most westerners dislike China. China has had a good, strong government pushing the economy forward while doing a pretty good job at keeping the population from growing out of control. I dislike the fact that the government in Beijing has spent two generations stealing trillions of dollars in technological secrets from the west and handed them out to stateassociated companies.

1)人民,民族國家和政府。西方人看到中國,大多認為漢人就是中國。他們在統計上基本上是正確的,但維族人可能對此有異議。民族國家,它包含了中國的許多多樣性。政府。我對政府的評價并不高,但這并不是大多數西方人不喜歡中國的原因。中國有一個良好、強大的政府推動經濟向前發展,同時在防止人口增長失控方面做得相當好。我不喜歡這樣一個事實:北京的政府花了兩代人的時間,從西方竊取了數萬億美元的技術機密,并把它們交給了國有企業。



There would be yearly or bi-annual random restaurant/concert/bar closings or enforcements of various types of laws (drunk driving, pollution, noise, smoking, food safety, road safety, building safety, general “security”, motorcycle license plates, internet, etc) for periods of times (sometimes politically related), and then things would revert to how they were before the enforcements, soon after. In other words, when the government is watching, people follow the rules. But there are simply too many people to watch and the government doesn’t really want to watch that much, so its kind of a game. The one thing that stuck is the no smoking law in restaurants, which is awesome! They were really serious about that one!

每年會有一些隨機餐廳/音樂會/酒吧關閉或者是實施的各種類型的法律(酒后駕車、污染、噪音、吸煙、食品安全、交通安全、建筑安全,一般的“安全”,摩托車牌照、互聯網等) (有時政治相關), 不久之后,事情恢復到它們實施之前的狀況,。換句話說,當政府在監督時,人們遵守規則。但是有太多的人要看,政府并不想看太多,所以這是一種游戲。唯一不變的是餐館里的禁煙法,這很棒了!這點,他們真的很認真!



I’ve witnessed thousands of people taking selfies for no reason at all. Not like, oh we’re at this crazy mountain lets capture the moment. More like we’re sitting on this bench lets take 100 photos of ourselves and post them to Wechat to see how many likes we get:
I met Steven Seagal once at the Beijing airport in the line to enter the country. He wasn’t that happy.
And most importantly, I found my business partners who make the Autoblow for me, and without them my life wouldn’t be the same. Dongguan is not what it used to be though. I’ll always miss the mysteriousness of the
abandoned villages you could find driving 1. ..2 hours away from the center of Beijing... And the feeling of discovering disused machinery from an earlier era。

我目睹過成千上萬的人毫無理由地自拍。不是說,哦,我們在這瘋狂的山讓我們捕捉這一刻。更像是我們坐在這張長椅上,讓我們給自己拍100張照片,貼在微信上,看看有多少人喜歡我們:
有一次,我在北京機場排隊入境時遇到史蒂文·西格爾(注:史蒂文·西格爾,1951年4月10日出生于美國密歇根州蘭辛。好萊塢著名動作巨星,同時是一位環保人士、合氣道武術教練和動物權利行動人士,擁有合氣道黑帶七段。)。他看上去沒那么高興。
最重要的是,我找到了為我制造自動機器(注:他是性玩具制造商)的商業伙伴,沒有他們,我的生活將會不一樣。東莞已經不是過去的樣子了。我將永遠懷念它的神秘
你開車可以找到廢棄村莊離北京中心2小時車程…以及發現早期廢棄機器的感覺。
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