為什么哈薩克斯坦人看起來像中國人?
2019-11-03 回復獎勵 32403
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Why do the Kazakh people look like Chinese?

為什么哈薩克斯坦人看起來像中國人?


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Bibol Alipbai, knows Kazakh, English, Russian, Chinese and Japanese
We are the so-called the Eurasian people. We have more Mongloid features, but we also have Europoid feature too.
I don’t think that it is because of Mongolian or Chinese influece. Mummified bodies of Ancient people were found all accross Kazakstan and around, and they are all mixed races, some more Asian and some more Western. Ever since the earliest settlements (Denisovnian, Andronov, Begazy-Dandybai), this region has become a crossroad for multiple human migrations. It is no accident that we have such diverse features. We sometimes call ourselves the Seventh Continent, though :).
However, Kazakhs relate themselves more with Turkic people of the Turkic Khanate in 7the Century, who were, indeed, more Mongloid looking. Ironically, as Mongol Empire was better known to wenterners, the people of Eastern Asian and Central Asia are called Mongloid. I bet if Turkic Khanate had similar influence we would be called differently, like Turkic looking people of Asia.
Check Balbal stones (Tomb stones) erected on Turkic worriors’ tombs (7–10 centuries).
Mongols invaded Kazaks’ lands in 13th century, but they were very small in number. Some army heads (no more than several thousand) were from mogol tribes according to historians. These Mongolian heads could not influence the outnumbered people of Kazakh tribes linguistically, let alone genetically.
So, I would say that we are historically “Mongloid” looking. We are the people of Eurasia, we don’t look like Chinese or Mongols.
Ok, here are some photos of Kazakh people I have found online.
More Western
More Asian
Again, more Asian, but with blue eyes.
And then, here is an interesting answer. Some of them are not ethnic Kazakhs, but most of them are. So, we don’t look like Chinese or Mogolian. :)
What do Kazakhstanis look like?

我們是所謂的歐亞混血兒。我們擁有更多的黃色人種特征,但是我們也擁有歐羅巴人種特征。
我認為這不是收到了蒙古人或者中國人的影響。哈薩克斯坦以及周圍地區都發現了古代人的木乃伊尸體。從最早的定居點以降,該地區就成為了各種人類移民的十字路口。所以我們的特征如此多樣化是毫不意外的。有時候我們會稱呼自己為“第七大陸”。



John May
You are right. Also look into the Huns, another mongoloid/sinoid looking people from present China that ravaged europe in the early 3–4th century and ruled the central asian steppes.
The interesting point is the surnames. Were they result of conversion into islam or the Y Chromosome from Arabs?

沒錯。還有匈奴人,也是蒙古人種/中國人種的相貌,他們以前位于如今中國的土地上,在公元3-4世紀的時候肆虐了歐洲,統治了中亞草原。有趣的是他們的姓氏,是因為皈依了伊斯蘭還是因為受到了阿拉伯人的Y染色體的影響?

Bibol Alipbai
Surnames? Nowadays most Kazakh names have -ov and -ova endings, and that is the legacy og Russian rule. And many kazahs have Arabic names, which is the result of Islamic influence in central Asia.

姓氏?如今大部分哈薩克斯坦人的名字都是以ov或者ova結尾,這是俄羅斯人統治的結果。很多哈薩克斯坦人還有阿拉伯名字,這就是伊斯蘭對中亞產生的影響。

Jason Kluge
I actually find all of them look very Asian. Personally I can''t tell their difference from the Chinese in N. China.

我覺得你發的這些照片看起來都非常像亞洲人。我感覺和中國北方人沒有什么差異。

Jay Ray
Can most Han Chinese pass as “local Kazakh” based on appearance if they are dressed similarly?

大部分中國漢人如果穿上哈薩克斯坦人的服裝的話,可以以假亂真嗎?

Alex Ryparov
No. They are different. It like difference between Russian face and Western Europe.

不,二者是不同的。就好比俄羅斯人和西歐人的差異。

Jay Ray
Yes, but there are many Russians who can pass as Western European and vice versa.
For example, I imagine that the 3 guys below could pass as Kazakh. Right?

是的,但是有很多俄羅斯人可以以假亂真成西歐人,反之亦然。
舉個例子,我認為下面這三個人可以以假亂真成哈薩克斯坦人,不是嗎?

Tolga Toleubay
Nope. I''m Kazakh and i can tell these guys are Asian, Chinese or Japanese, or whatever. I mean they don''t look even close to Central Asians. I guess its the eyes, perhaps ? And some face features. To me they look totally different from Kazakhs.

不行。我是哈薩克斯坦人,我可以看出這些人是亞洲人,中國人或者日本人。我的意思是他們看起來根本不像中亞人。或許是眼睛出賣了他們?還有一些面部特征。在我看來,他們與哈薩克斯坦人是完全不同的。

Peng XiangPing
Yes, I agree. Chinese is a very diverse race also. It is different from north to central to south and west. It is a billion people race on this planet. So please don’t generalist one group of people over the others. It is important to do some study first before assumption.

我贊同。中國人是一個非常多元化的種族。總過北方人,中部人,南方人以及西部人都各不相通。中國人口10多億啊。所以不能一概而論。



Will Sherlington
i think i can relate to that statement above. I’m chinese myself but i have a certain physical features that none of my family members have. I have frizzy curly hair type 3c, long nose, hairy and i don’t have slanted eyes ;D

我能理解你的意思。我自己是中國人,但是我的某些身體特征是我的家人所沒有的。我有曲卷的頭發,長長的鼻子,身體多毛,而且我沒有瞇瞇眼。

Alex Chomsky, Mixed. Dad is Chinese. Mom is Russian.
I have some Kazakh friends, and they sort of look like me :) The president of Kazakhstan also looks a bit Chinese
Also the guy on the bottom left (Dimash) looks Chinese. His dad does too. He’s also somewhat popular in China.
As others like Bibol Alipbai have mentioned, Kazakhs are a Turkic people, who are believed to have originated from the Far East in China (Turkic peoples#Origins and early expansion, around Manchuria and then spread westward).
Parts of Kazakhstan (and Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan) actually used to be part of China, like during the Han dynasty and Tang dynasty. The Kazakhs are also closely related to the Uyghur people of Xinjiang, another Turkic-speaking people living in China.
[See that light blue? That was part of Han China. Also see the Greco-Chinese war, Protectorate of the Western Regions, and Han-Xiongnu war.]
[Tang dynasty, also see Protectorate General to Pacify the West]
Then came the Mongol dynasty.
But even for centuries before, the Eurasian steppe, Central Asians lands of Kazakhstan, and Mongolia were unified under the Xiongnu confederacy and Gokturk empire, making the Mongols and Kazakhs historically genetically related.
[Xiongnu, later defeated by the Han c80 BC]
[ Gokturks, lated defeated by the Tang by the 7th century ]
Linguistically, Turkic people and Mongolians speak very similar languages, both with SOV typology, vowel harmony, agglutination, and some cognates, leading some past linguists to postulate that they belong to the same family, the Altaic group. However nowadays, most scholars believe that Turkic languages and Mongolian form a sprachbund due to historical intermixing and interaction between the groups.
But there were also other times when Greeks (Alex the Great), Persians (Sogdians), Arabs (Abbasids), and most recently Russians occupied Central Asia (that’s why Kazakhs and other former Central Asian Soviet satellite states still write in Cyrillic, but Kazakhstan will switch to Latin by 2025). Thus the Turkic people have acquired some loanwords, linguistic and genetic influences from western Eurasians, Europeans and Middle Easterners, as well.
China–Kazakhstan relations - Wikipedia
The region used to be a hub for the Ancient Silk Road, and China is planning to build a new one with the BRI, with Kazakhstan playing an important economic role and hopefully to become as prosperous and rich as it was during the golden age of the silk road. China-Kazakhstan relations are also trending quite strongly.

我有一些哈薩克斯坦朋友,他們看起來像我,哈薩克斯坦的總統看起來也有點像中國人。
還有哈薩克斯坦著名歌手迪瑪希看起來也像中國人。他的爸爸也像。他在中國還挺出名的。
正如Bibol Alipbai所言,哈薩克斯坦人是突厥民族,而突厥人據認為是起源于遠東,即中國(突厥人起源及其早期擴張,位于滿洲附近,然后向西擴張)。

哈薩克斯坦(以及吉爾吉斯斯坦和烏茲別克斯坦)部分地區以前實際上屬于中國的一部分,比如漢朝和唐朝期間。哈薩克斯坦人也與新疆人有著親密的關系,新疆人是生活在中國的另一支說突厥語的人。
看到淺藍色那個部分了嗎?以前就屬于漢朝一部分。還有希臘與漢朝之間的戰爭(漢攻大宛之戰),西域都護府,還有漢朝和匈奴之間的戰爭。
還有唐朝期間的安西大都護府。
然后是蒙古人的王朝。



Nathan Tesker
you also are forgetting stalin’s deportation policy and him deporting koreans to central asia. that’s how my family came to know about kimchi :-)

你可能忘了斯大林的流放政策,他將朝鮮人流放到中亞。所以我的家人才知道了朝鮮泡菜的存在。

Victor Yang
We are all related: Chinese (Han), Tibetan, Mongolian, Korean, Japanese, most South Eastern peoples, even the American aborigials. Shall we all be called the “Yellow race”?

我們都是互相關聯的:中國人(漢人),西藏人,蒙古人,朝鮮人,日本人,大部分的東南亞人,甚至是美洲土著。我們都被稱為黃種人?



Merve Yarar, Loves K-Pop, K-Drama, Linguistics and Anthropology
Yes, some of them look Chinese.
Kazakhs are very diverse at looks, although they look like they''re same. But Kazakh looks can vary from East Asian to Eurasian.
For example…
East Asian looking Kazakhs
Eurasian-looking Kazakhs:

是的,某些哈薩克人看起來像中國人。哈薩克斯坦人的樣貌非常多元,盡管看起來好像一樣。有的像東亞人,有的像歐亞混血兒。
比如:
看起來像東亞人的哈薩克斯坦人
看起來像歐亞混血兒的哈薩克斯坦人
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